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Michael is Low on Hit Points

Final thoughts as Winter 2009 and lingering Fall 2008 series come to a close

White Album
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1  ghostlightning

I'm pretty satisfied with Toradora! myself ^^/

I had dropped all but one of the shows that started in winter and I'm not happy with it either: RideBack.

The main thing is that anything not involving Rin on a Ride Back is boring. The side characters may succeed at some level to be sympathetic but none of them are truly interesting to me.

The logical disaster in episode 10 did me in:

There was no reason for the glasses wearing Rin fangirl to get killed. The White Rides got very specific instructions to apprehend her (thinking she was Rin) on illegal Ride Back use, certainly not a crime meted by capital punishment on the spot.

The poor girl perhaps startled the White Ride soldier (supposedly elite) while taking on a hill. But there was no compelling trigger that prompted him to attack the rider and not the Ride Back. No sense for him to launch a lethal attack.

I understand the need to galvanize Rin into making a decision, but this was just a terrible job in doing so.

Re  Michael is LoHP

@ ghostlightning

I stopped before episode 10, but that's exactly the sort of thing that got to me with RideBack. That's just some plain old bad writing. Toradora, on the other hand, ended with some fantastic writing. It surprised the hell out of me as the season progressed, too. RideBack's writing surprised me in the wrong way. So much for all that potential.

2  kadian1364

Overall, the past Fall, and especially Winter, anime seasons felt really weak. I only really liked the top two shows on the list, and besides Clannad's final segment and Toradora's finish, everything else was unremarkable, if not outright terrible (Minami-ke 3, I'm looking at you). The lull did let me catch shows I overlooked before, like Moyashimon and Monster, but I'm hoping the Spring season will bring more inspired series to bare.

3  Nazarielle

Phew, glad I dropped Rideback after the first episode. Well, I guess it was more a matter of not being bored enough to keep watching and then when I realized no one was talking about it anymore, I figured it was failing.

Regarding Munto,

"Just sit back and watch the pretty magical explosions, I guess."

I get the feeling that's all they really wanted you to do. It was complete and total pandering to the "Oooh!" factor. The story part wasn't any better, but I felt myself strangely caught up emotionally by Yumemi. Still haven't watched the final episode though.

Gundam 00 is mechaporn pure and simple. It was still kinda fun, and if you like seeing giant mecha fights, you'll at least get that out of Gundam 00. But the story is just plain lame. And I felt worse for the 'bad' guys than I did for the main characters toward whom we're supposed to feel sympathetic.

4  Glo the Legend

Was Black God really that bad? I haven't seen it but I was going to start Black God and Rideback tonight. Looks like I might be in for a rough time, but I'm still gonna try it.

I love the last three shows on the list, as I'm sure a lot of people would. They were easily the three best shows of the season, although I would have ordered them as Clannad, Index, Toradora though. I think Toradora was one of the best shows that I've seen in a long while. I was written really well. Clannad also had some great writing.

I'm also glad to see someone not knocking Maria + Holic. I'm still waiting for subs on the last episode though.

White Album never really interested me, so I haven't really checked it out. Everyone keeps saying it's good, so I might be forced to eventually. If I do, it will probably be before the next season begins.

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@ kadian1364

Loved Minami-ke 1. Skipped 2. Thought about watching 3. Sounds like I did well to miss out. I might give the sequels a spin someday, but I'm just not feeling them right now.

Monster is amazing. Great in the classical sense. Moyashimon is somewhere on my gigantic and ever-growing "must watch" list.

@ Nazarielle

RideBack was alright for a while, but the further I watched, the more it began to let me down. "Missed potential" is the key phrase here.

On Munto: that sounds about right. At 9 episodes in length, I guess if they really wanted to craft a story they would have made it a longer production. Yumemi and friends were fun to watch. But when the series moved the focus away from them and their world, the show dropped a couple of notches in my eyes.

And finally, I do love my mecha. But, the fights I saw in the first half of 00 season 2 weren't exactly the fights I wanted. I want to see Graham own the shit out of Setsuna. I want to see Ali and Nena tear shit up. And I want to see Patrick make a fool out of himself as usual. I guess I need to press further to see all that?

@ Glo the Legend

Black God is bad in the classical sense, but it has certain "charms," if you will. The main heroine fights like a kickboxer. None of the other fights I saw were anywhere as good as the one in episode 1, but they were all well animated up to where I stopped.

I had Toradora in the one spot for a while after getting pissed off at Clannad's finale. But looking back, the best parts of Clannad beat out the best parts of Toradora for me. So even though one ended better, I'm trying to look at the overall picture. That's why Soul Eater isn't all the way at the bottom.

I don't really get why people have all of a sudden started knocking Maria Holic. It's been the same show from start to finish. If you liked it at the beginning, where the hell did the series go wrong?

White Album is either a show you'll love right away or hate immediately. I don't think watching further into it will really change your initial perspective either way. So you should know where you stand not too far into episode 1.

5  Omisyth

I'm prepared top defend the anime original ending of Soul Eater just as you are preapred to defend the abundant amount explanations in To Aru Majutsu no Index. It has it's flaws, but that doesn't mean it's completely awful and an utter disappointment.

And lol, Clannad the best anime ever made up until the ending? :P

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@ Omisyth

Well, I feel as if they're rushing to fit everything into the end of Soul Eater. That and I wanted something a tad bit more serious for the last few episodes. Index has its flaws, but I don't feel they run anywhere as deep as the ones in the last few episodes of Soul Eater.

As far as Clannad, maybe I should have worded it as being "a contender for my all-time favorites list." I guess that sounds a little less extreme. I mean, it's still up there in my favorites, but I don't feel that overall it can compare to my all-time favorites after that collapse (personal opinion) towards the end.

6  Nazarielle

Well, there's maybe one episode with Graham tearing Setsuna up, but it doesn't last long. Nena hardly gets any time in the spotlight, and the same is true of Ali. After episode 15 or so, Ali doesn't show up until the bitter end, and then when he does, it's rather disappointing. Nena is really left in the dust, as she doesn't even get her old suit upgraded at all. And Patrick does get to come back near the end as well, but his screentime is very short lived.

Re  Michael is LoHP

@ Nazarielle

Lame. Thanks for the forewarning though.

7  Omisyth

@Michael

Well, having just seen the actual finale for the show, I'm going to have to retract that statement. It really was just disappointing.

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@ Omisyth

Finally got around to that final episode of Soul Eater... wow, that was pretty bad. I mean, I wasn't expecting much... but damn. Oh well, there's always the manga.

8  Martin

Ride Back is turning out okay (currently waiting on the last ep) but yeah, there were some plot twists that felt really forced. There was a lot that felt illogical but Rin's still a great lead character so I'll be seeing it through to the end.

Munto seemed to be all about the prettiness and no logic whatsoever, so I dropped it. I must admit I was cautiously hopeful but the writer was either unbelievably lazy or was out of the office for most of the time.

I guess I was one of those who called White Album a soap opera, but I meant that in a good way because, for better or for worse, it was a little bit different. Portraying Touya as an unfaithful ass is either ballsy or foolish writing, depending on how you look at it (I lean towards the former and look forward to Yuki kicking his butt in the second season). 80s retro setting FTW!

Toradora! is shaping up well - it's not breaking the mould but the characters are so engaging I'm enjoying every minute of it.

Clannad ~AS~ is another one that's left me pleasantly surprised - when it entered its second half and 'grew up' I realised we have something a bit special here. Still, I've heard the latter episodes get REALLY teary so when all the widescreen episodes are subbed in full I'll set aside a full saturday afternoon for marathoning the rest in one T_T -filled sitting.

Re  Michael is LoHP

@ Martin

I really liked Rin, too. I felt RideBack had plenty of potential, and I do intend to pick it back up and finish it eventually.

The only reason I kept up with Munto was the easy to finish nine episode count. As for the writing, I think that fact that it wasn't a whole, continuous work (two separate OVAs weaved into new plot) was what lead to the story being so weak.

Gotta love the unique (by anime standards) setting for White Album. Plus, Touya's dug himself a deep hole that will be fun watching him plummet down. Maybe that's too harsh, but he is kind of an ass.

Toradora gets really good in the later episodes, despite what people say about pacing.

When Clannad ~AS "grew up" is when it completely blew me away. That was simply solid story telling, especially when the more gut-wrenching things start to occur. So good that I gave up on widescreen to skip ahead. I never regretted it.

9  ETERNAL

I've been meaning to finish White Album for a while now, I get the feeling I wouldn't mind the melodrama. Besides, it's been ages since I watched KimiNozo, which it always seems to remind me of.

That said, you should probably finish Gundam 00. I have no real basis for saying that since I'm not even too familiar with the Gundam franchise or mecha genre, but it was a better series than I expected, and the ending was nice, if not a little...odd. Some of the mecha bloggers, if that's a term, have already talked about it in much more detail.

Re  Michael is LoHP

@ ETERNAL

The one caveat to picking up White Album now is that it isn't finished, of course. The way I see it, there's no reason to rush into it if you're just going to have to wait till the end of the year anyways. Right before season 2 begins might be the best time to pick it up.

And I haven't seen Kimi ga Nozomu Eien, so I can't compare the two. But that reminds me that I need to see that anime!

And yes, I'll definitely get back on 00. It was never all that bad, it just wasn't a necessary view at the time it was airing. It's just a matter of finishing up some of the other finished series I'm marathoning to clear up some space in my schedule for it.

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